0:00this is from the h3h3 podcast highlights You served in the military y Klein tell us all about it from 2017 as well 6
0:07years ago they would have been like 33 years old when this happened let's check out what heila Klein has to say about her time um serving in the colonial
0:14occupation forces of Israel family served in the military right mhm what did uh how was your experience in the military um it was
0:24okay uh I I didn't do anything like I wasn't like a combative role yeah you weren't a fighter I wasn't a fighter you
0:32only supporting the fighters you only did everything that all the bu bureaucracy and the logistics that is necessary to enable them to kill the
0:40babies so I don't have anything like crazy to tell but um I don't know it's
0:47kind of like a it's kind of like a mandatory job that you have to go to and you don't there's nothing mandatory about it you can say no it's not like
0:55you're literally physically forced into doing it it's not like you have no choice whatsoever it's not like they fucking control you brain and force you to do it Muhammad Ali facing way worse
1:04consequences than you dodge the draft people in Nazi Germany facing way worse consequences than you dodge the draft and nothing even close to what they
1:12endured would have ever happened to you if you had said no but you didn't do it it's a choice it's not something you're forced into it's a choice if you're not
1:21willing to make a slight personal sacrifice and not helping the killing of babies then you're just a baby killer it's that simple like the way that people think about killing King for the
1:30government is insane honestly the way that like they they legitimize it if it's for the state is insane a poor person might have an out of poverty for
1:38example by taking by taking a contract to kill someone for $50,000 or something if they can say no to that they lose way more from deciding not to do that then
1:47you do from what you did yet I could never imagine anyone accepting the argument that you know I did it for the money so it's okay I was in poverty so it's okay I was basically forced into it
1:56so it's okay bullshit get paid for yeah someone said is it like a forced vacation no no it's more like a forced
2:03job forced job cuz you what what did you do what was your role in the military what would have happened to if you had said no anything significant anything
2:11worse for you or for the world than helping to murder babies no um at first
2:19I was given a role that was like in an office uh somewhat close to my house in Tel AV and it was kind of like going to
2:27a day job in an office um it happened right after there was some kind of a second war in where was it in
2:35Gaza that yeah there was some sort of second war in Gaza that would have been
2:412014 a small War yeah when I was there and um my job was like when they send
2:49officers or like people to go serve I had to like logistically help with like
2:56their hotel or a room things like that but it was all on the computer it just felt like some computer thing right okay
3:03so secretary yeah I I I really like the way that it is rationalized by the fact that it is like depersonalized it's like a computer thing so it's okay don't
3:12think about what the what your input into the computer actually means what what you're actually doing it's a computer thing so I'm not directly
3:20involved interesting and it was super boring and I really hated it cuz it was just like I had to take an
3:28a bus super early go there spend the whole day go back home I hated it so I
3:34tried to change my role and um it was something like you can apply for it and it's a form that you fill out and then
3:41they're going to give you something else completely randoma different Post Yeah different location so I so she had like a
3:49non-combat desk job which is still bad but it is like a a level of complicity that is one remove from like directly
3:57killing the people yourself and she was like no this isn't exciting enough for me I want something more direct I want something more involved give me whatever
4:04you got I'll take it do that and if I don't like the second one then I'll just find a way to get out of the army cuz was that bad yeah well you could find a
4:12way to get out so she acknowledges right there there are ways that she could have gotten out of the army but she would only want to get out of the army if like
4:20she didn't like the job that she was doing enough if it wasn't exciting enough for her not like on moral grounds
4:27so that's right there she knowledges that she had ways out she had ways to not have to work for them but she didn't
4:35care enough to actually utilize them until it was just boring for her that is fuck that kills the argument of Ethan
4:42Klein her own arguments that I'm sure she would use to defend herself and the arguments of all their fans and IDF supporters in general who excuse this there are ways for them to get out there
4:51are ways for them to avoid it but they're just not willing to actually take them they're just not willing to take a stand they're just not willing to
4:58to make the slightest personal sacrifice to take a stand against baby killing colon colonialism I just didn't I hated
5:05everything about it didn't want to do it um except what it actually meant what the end result of it was you just cuz if you're doing something that it felt like
5:14I wasn't doing anything I was just wasting my life yeah it could get really frustrating I don't know right and you got to do it for two years right so I
5:22tried I feel out that form and I tried it and then I somehow ended up in a better place that I liked a lot more mm
5:30um before it was a daily thing where you go back home every day and the new one was in a way that was a base that was far from my house so you go there for
5:39the whole week and then you come back for the weekend so you preferred that were you gone for a whole week I did it was in the West Bank wasn't it why it
5:47was kind of like just more of an adventure more of it more of an adventure holy shit she literally talks like a fucking 19th century Frontier
5:55settler like a cowboy on the fucking California Frontier wrangling Indian it was more of a fucking Adventure these people suffering for her was an
6:03adventure colonialism for her was an adventure different experience and yeah she's being very much intentionally vague that I preferred than to just go
6:11to a boring job sit on the computer and go back home this is the mentality of like a fucking Nazi settler in Poland
6:181943 at the end of every day I don't know were you doing secretary work there so yeah I was the Secretary of the head
6:25of the um there's like a I don't know the terms in English from the Army
6:31right so there was a I was in duat which is like a like a brigade I guess hold on
6:39like a brigade I didn't know how to write how to anglicize the Hebrew but um I'm I'm 100% sure that she's talking
6:46about um the West Bank here I guess that's in charge of the area of rala mhm
6:54she was literally in the West Bank she was in the fucking West Bank she was like a direct secretary to a commander in the West Bank and she considered that
7:02exciting and and more desirable to her previous job where she was like um further removed from the killing and that Brigade has like a main officer MH
7:10so I was his secretary you were a direct fucking assistant to what she calls the main officer of an occupying military
7:18even even if we're not looking at this from a colonialist framework every single country in the world considers the West Bank to be occupied by Israel
7:26and she was there as a secretary to what she calls the main officer responsible for occupying ramala one of the most significant fucking cities in
7:34Palestinian history in Palestine today you right below the big boy mhm cool right Bel the big cool cool very
7:43interesting um it was more so much worse than I thought it would be honestly Deming in a way but
7:51also kind of more rewarding because you're put in this weird situation where weird occupying people is a weird
7:57situation this is this is how I imagine like a na like um a Nazi who is proud of what they are doing yet nonetheless
8:05knows deep down that it's bad would talk about it you don't you're away from your house you have this new group of people that you have to get along with and I
8:14it's hard to explain but for some reason it was more interesting I enjoyed it more you told me once you went on like a mission with them to like a terrorist City to like a ter she went on a mission
8:23to a terrorist City both of that words not just hers yeah that was kind of a crazy story
8:30yeah the a terrorist City a terrorist City at not not just like she not even like a terrorist base or like you know a
8:38terrorist Hideout a whole city of terrorists that is how they viewed Palestinians in 2017 my officers and like the the
8:47soldiers in that Brigade um they would go every night on a raid right in every night they would go on a raid that is
8:56straight up terrorism they were just terrorizing the people they were occupying for the sake of it to keep them in line mowing the lawn they call
9:03it to arrest terrorist to arrest terrorists and um so I always this is a Nazi talking about fucking going out
9:11into the fucking Forest to hunt Jewish partisans it's the same thing saw them preparing for it and leaving and then I would stay in the base so one time I
9:20wanted to go with them just to experience it why you just were all of a sudden had a urge to go with them I just wanted to see what it's like I wanted to
9:27see it okay so um it yeah they took him they took me with them one night even though they weren't supposed to did they
9:34armor your ass up um you driving in this like Gip that's I just went with him for fun you know bulletproof right you can
9:42really tell the imbalance of power here like she felt so safe to just go on this as like a witness of the ter of the
9:49so-called terrorist the raid on the terrorist City and for her it was like a fucking Safari it was like she was she
9:56was on a safari in South Africa to check at the local Wildlife except for her the local Wildlife are human beings occupied
10:03by the state that she's worked for as as a complicit part of its apparatus of occupation of terrorism and but for her
10:10she talks about it like she's like a she's going to South Africa in an armored car to see the elephants so I was in the gy and then um
10:19as soon as we entered rala the people in the city started shooting us wow and I heard like a bullet so you as an
10:27occupier entered a Palestinian City you didn't have to do that there was no reason for you to do that there's no reason for the for the people you with
10:35to do that but you did it in order to terrorize the people who live there and they defended themselves and she just frames herself as like the righteous one
10:43attack like raiding the the enemy terrorist so they can be arrested it's unbelievable Israelis are the dumbest people alive this is not because they're
10:50propaganda it's they are stupid for one and they they understand that this is done for their benefit don't for one second imagine that she doesn't
10:59and because you can tell how vague she's being here you can tell that she's using euphemisms she's well aware that people that her audience there are people in
11:07your audience who would be like this sounds kind of fucking weird man like this isn't right so that's why they're being vague about it it's why they're
11:15they using euphemisms why they're not being 100% forward with the truth because they they are very conscious of it do not for a second believe that they not understand the absurdity of this
11:23they not understand how dumb this sounds to us it's not like their propaganda to believe that it's right they really do just believe it's right of their own accord they understand the material
11:32benefit that it brings to them did you did it like Dent or just you it's a narly armored Jeep mhm okay
11:40and I mean it was just interesting it was just interesting you know so someone actually was shooting the car when you went in there right away yeah huh did
11:48you have a gun on you I didn't you were not supposed to leave no yeah not really but even if I I mean I I walked with
11:55them to one house I did get out of the car once I walked away them as they raided unoccupied colonized Palestinians
12:02house in the fucking West Bank even but but surrounded with them okay did they arrest anyone that night they did did they bring it in the same car
12:10with you no oh there's a few cars going damn that's crazy was it like how did you feel was it horrifying it was
12:17strange very strange very weird how like how weird
12:23um I don't know just you see people in the house and then it's like you see people in the house at least she
12:32she thinks they're people on some level that's um that's surprising for an IDF member the soldiers go just walk into
12:40the house and look through their shit and find guns and oh man why would someone in the West Bank have a gun I
12:47can't imagine why is it because you raid you were raiding that fucking house is that why they might have a gun to defend
12:56themselves from you the whole thing is really surreal the whole thing was really surreal I don't even know how to respond
13:04to that as like a whole thing I feel like just going through it it's sort of speaks for itself I don't really need to provide that much commentary on it like I was planning to just refute in advance
13:13the sort of arguments they make about how you're forced into the idea so it's not your fault but then she did it herself by saying that she could have
13:20gotten out of the army if she wanted to and she was planning to do so she didn't get a job that she found sufficiently exciting she was fine with it she could have gotten out of it she wasn't really
13:28forced into it in any meaningful respect with a little you know a little bit of effort she could have gotten out of it but she chose not to and that is all
13:35that you need to know I I thank you tahila Klein for debunking the argument that I'm sure you would make to defend yourself that e would make to defend
13:43yourself and that your fans and many others who have sympathies for IDF Stormtroopers and IDF secretaries would make to defend themselves they're not
13:51forced into it they can get out of it they know they can get out of it they know that there are paths they can take to get out of doing it so yeah they do
13:59it because they want to they do it because they are it seems like a better option to them than just not helping to kill babies whether it is with a stroke of a pen with the with some data entry
14:08into a computer or with that a gun themselves because all of it contributes to the mass murder of kids directly they are member of a military you can't say
14:16otherwise obviously what the what exactly do you think your military bureaucrat is for aside from that yeah that is so much worse than I thought it would be Ean and heiler Klein like they
14:24have even you would have thought at least in the beginning of this maybe he had some way to be redeemed but not anymore
14:32not anymore like at the end of the day they know that it's bad but they just can't really bring themselves to fully denounce it and that's what Ethan kin is
14:39really a symptom of there's no coming back from like being 33 years old and thinking that George Bush is a bass painter guy regardless of how many
14:47videos of of blowing up Palestinian babies they see there's just it's you know by the time you're 33 it's very
14:55difficult for your beliefs to not be to not have been solidified by then and don't infantilize them by acting like it's not their fault it obviously is
15:03their fault they believe what they believe because it is within their interest to do so it really is that simple Ethan has talked about for example in his early videos he would
15:10hide Israeli flags and and um Hebrew lettering in his in the videos that he was filming in Israel because he didn't he he knew that people didn't like
15:18Israel he knew that people wouldn't like to know that he lived in Israel so they knew what other people thought about it and they decided to hide it rather than
15:26to interrogate why those people thought that about it just more evidence of what I say they know it's bad they they know everyone else thinks it's bad they know
15:35that what they are doing is is abhorent they do it anyway they believe in it anyway they justify it anyway what more is it to say and yeah another huge L for
15:43Hassan that he ever had a podcast with this fucking guy people will look be will look past anything as long as you
15:50can like get some audience Crossover with the other party it's so it's so annoying I wish it would fucking take a stand have some principles y Hassan you
15:59don't need anyone else like come on for 2 seconds have some principles you'd be a fucking millionaire if you never even
16:06engag a single of a content creator you don't need to do this shit give me a break